web design scam text correspondence

Recently, we’ve received a number of different requests for website redesign proposals that had some odd and striking similarities, enough to trigger alarm bells that something wasn’t right. What started as a simple text message turned into a call with the Secret Service (yeah, really). We all know how prevalent scams are online, so it’s no surprise that these extend to specifically crafted web design scams, SEO scams and other scams that directly target photographers, designers and other creative professionals. In the web design industry, we’re all targets. Be alert, trust your instincts and reach out to others in your professional community.

Here’s how the scams work

They’re called the Third Party Payout Scam, the Payment Reversal Scam, the Advanced Fee Scam or the Overpayment Scam. The Fraud Prevention department at credit card payment processor Stripe put it like this:

I can see that you work in web design. Designers such as yourself are common targets for a type of scam known as a Third Party Payout. Essentially, the scammer makes a payment (generally in the thousands) for a project, and pays more than they need so you can then transfer money direct to a third party (e.g. a consultant, graphic designer, etc). I imagine your correspondence with your ‘client’ has been along these line. As I’m sure you’ve figured out, the fix is that the card used is stolen and the third party is actually the scammer. So when the legitimate cardholder disputes the payment the business is left holding the bag on the money retrieved from their account and what they transferred to the scammer.

What’s amazing about these web design scams

  1. How involved they are – by the time any money were to actually make it back to the scammers, a lot of work and time is devoted to each scam
  2. How long they’ve been going on for – these scams have been going on for a while, and they don’t look to stop
  3. The exact scams aren’t changing much – a basic web search will turn up dozens of minor variations on the same web design scams that are being recrafted into seo scams, designer scams and other freelancer scams
  4. The scammers will email you, text you and sometimes even talk on the phone with you – it’s amazing just how easily a scammer can be totally anonymous hiding behind a throw away webmail account and a Google Voice phone number

Here’s how the web design scams went down

The first scam came through from Kent Walter <kentwaltersnr@gmail.com> and seemed strange because it mentioned a budget right off the bat (what clients reveal their budget in a blind outreach email) and asked “are you the owner” – strange. It also referenced another website to copy – pretty unusual. Here’s the full email:

From: Kent Walter <kentwaltersnr@gmail.com>

Good I just want to open a new Indian Restaurant i need a website for my business to grow the site should be up & running by ending of March i don’t want a shopping cart in my reservation page also i don’t have a domain name yet i prefer: DHARMAKENTRESTAURANT.COM My budget is $5000-10000 for the web design i need you to go through this example link site: http://www.indikausa.com, i want the same page as this site i want only English language you will be updating the site for me. I have a private project consultant, he has the text content with logo along with the image artwork get back to me with an estimate including hosting i will like to know if you are the owner or the manager?

Thank you

This person is the scammer: “I have a private project consultant, he has the text content with logo along with the image artwork”

web design scam fake website sitemap

“Kent” even sent through a sitemap drawing of the website he wanted to make – pretty funny in retrospect. And since this time, the website http://www.indikausa.com has been suspended by HostGator. I emailed with “Kent Walker” a few times until I realized the whole thing was going nowhere – he never responded to basic discovery questions. I didn’t suspect this was a web design scam. Until a few weeks went by.

The second web design scam came through a few weeks later – early in the morning as a text message from someone claiming to be Luis Lee at (732) 893-0731. The first text read “good day are you available for a website design.” Our business number accepts text messages and our Google My Business listing allows potential customers to text message us. Here’s where the alarm bells start going off:

From Luis Lee (732) 893-0731

am luis i would love to know if you can handle website design for a new company and also if you do accept credit cards ?? kindly get back to me with your email so i can send you the job details.

And it gets even more fishy when the email came through from luis lee <luislee23@yahoo.com>

From: luis lee <luislee23@yahoo.com>

I have small scale business which i want to turn into large scale business now it located in TX and the company is based on importing and exporting of Agriculture products such as Kola Nut, Gacillia Nut and Cocoa so i need a best of the best layout design for it. Can you handle that for me ?. so i need you to check out this site but i need something more perfect than this if its possible .http://www.agroamerica.com…. the site would only be informational, so i need you to give me an estimate based on the site i gave you to check out, the estimate should include hosting and i want the same page as the site i gave you to check out and i have a private project consultant, he has the text content and the logos for the site.

Note:
1. I want the same number of pages with the example site i gave you to check excluding videos and blogs.
2. I want only English language
3. I don’t have a domain yet but i want the domain name as leetopfarmproduce.com
4. you will be updating the site for me.
5. i will be provideing the images, logos and content for the site.
6. i want the site up and running before ending of next month.
7. My budget is $4000 to $6000

Kindly get back to me with:
(1) an estimate
(2) And will like to know if you are the owner ??

Regards

This person is the scammer: “i have a private project consultant, he has the text content and the logos for the site”

I immediately thought, “There is that same email we received from the Indian Restaurant a few weeks ago. What are the odds.” It became obvious pretty quick that both were web design scams.

But then my brain quickly went to “how do these web design scams work? – how do they play out – what kind of people are doing this?” I have no intentions in vigilante justice. Or intentions of repeating the amazing journey of phone scam discovery that took the producers of the Reply All podcast to India to meet the people behind those annoying junk calls from a phone number a few digits off from your own (episodes one and two – will blow your mind).

Curiosity got the best of this cat, so I played along with the web design scam to find out more.

Luis of course eagerly responded to my proposal

I emailed with “Luis Lee” a few times and even made up a quick proposal based on the sitemap of the Agro America website and sent it off to Luis. I even called him to see if he would pick up. I ended up talking to Luis on the phone, though the connection was terrible and neither of us could understand each other. He did, though, email me right back to accept my proposal.

From: luis lee <luislee23@yahoo.com>

Thanks for your response, I am okay with the estimate everything sound good and i’m ready to make payment now with my credit card, I understand the content for this site would be needed so work can start asap but i will need a Little favor from you and the favor is that I will send you my credit card to charge for the sum of $5850 plus 3% Cc company charges, You will deduct $2750 as deposit for the design of the website plus extra $100.00 as a tip for handling perfect work for me and you will send the remaining $3,000 to the project consultant that has the text content and the logo for my website so once he receive the $3,000 he would send the text content and logo needed for my website to you so work can start asap,Sending of funds would be after money clears into your account and You will be charging my card for remaining balance upon completion of work, Kindly get back to me so we can proceed with payment asap

Regards
Luis

Here’s the scam: “you will send the remaining $3,000 to the project consultant that has the text content and the logo for my website”

Pretty good location for a gacillia nut business

I asked for a name and address of the company, and was given the kind of uncreative name “Luis Lee LTD” and the address 5603 Peacock Ridge San Antonio, TX 78228. As if more evidence of this web design scam were needed, a quick search on that address showed that it had been listed for sale just 21 hours ago.

fake address used by web design scam attempt

I reached out to Stripe to see if they had any interest in at least tracking an IP address from these people. I can turn my credit card payment processor into testing mode so charges aren’t really processed. The great people at Stripe’s Fraud Prevention department told me to do absolutely nothing like that, to stop all communications and to reach out to the Secret Service with details of the web design scam.

It turns out this particular variant on the Third Party Payout Scam / Payment Reversal Scam / Advanced Fee ScamOverpayment Scam has its own name: the Agro America Scam and the Gacillia Nut Scam. Unlike the Indian Restaurant variant where the example website seems to have been suspended, it seems that Agro America is a legitimate business and doesn’t play a part in this scam. The website did send my computer’s CPUs through the roof, making me wonder about BitCoin / cryptocurrency mining. But enough about the scam.

What to do if you’ve been targeted

  1. Unless any money has been stolen from you, the best thing to do is nothing. Delete the emails / texts and never reply at all. It’s unlikely that the scammers are sitting in a room together and will put you on some kind of organized hey don’t contact this web designer again, she’s onto us type list. More likely is that the scammers are an unconnected group of people using the same scam, are totally disorganized and will probably contact you again. So just delete. We played along for a bit to find out more about the scam out of curiosity, but it’s probably not a good idea.
  2. If you want to report the scam, or have unfortunately lost any money, you can reach out to
    • The Secret Service – we were referred to them by Stripe even though no money had changed hands. The Secret Service is responsible for counterfeiting law violations as well as financial fraud including banking, access device, advance fee fraud and computer fraud, financial document counterfeiting, and money laundering. I had a pretty nice chat on the phone with a Secret Service agent who confirmed how widespread these web design scams are and told me that unless money had changed hands, they weren’t too interested in trying to track anyone down
    • FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) – complaints filed via this website are processed and may be referred to federal, state, local or international law enforcement or regulatory agencies for possible investigation
    • Federal Trade Commission Complaint Assistant

We’ve heard reports from others like fellow web designers Olive Group and Covington Creations about similar encounters. Have you been contacted? Have an update to report?

Updates

Looks like the scammers are moving to Yelp! Is anyone else getting these Yelp scam messages? Seem very similar to other general web design scam emails we’ve gotten dozens of times…

New Message: James H. is requesting a quote

Hi there, please respond with a price estimate. Here are my answers to Yelp’s questions regarding my project:

In which ZIP code are you looking for professionals?
78711

Describe your need:
Good day, am Hanson i would like to know if you can create and handle an informational website design for my new company ? Kindly get back to me as soon as possible with your email or cellphone number so i can send you the job details. Thanks

Thanks for the comments posting the details of all the variants on this same third party payout scam. Hopefully the scammers get tired of spending all this time trying to steal money and put their efforts into something more constructive. Keep up the comments so others can stay alerted!

This stuff never stops. Good thing is that it can be put online so others can find it hopefully before any money changes hands. Just got another of the same scammer emails from leon gregory <leongreg2006@hotmail.com>

From: leon gregory <leongreg2006@hotmail.com>

My name is Gregory Leon and I would like to get a quote for an e-commerce website for customers in Haiti, with the same functionality as Craigslist, but with distinct design. In addition, I want to integrate google translation because Haitians speaks French and Creole. Furthermore, the website will be for small businesses and individuals with goods and services they are interested in selling or advertising via this website. There are additional features I want integrate into the website as well:

Certify SSL, and all traffic to the website will be over HTTPS.
WordPress
Ensure current architecture adequately supports future systems upgrade
Enable electronics gift card payment.
Create ten additional staffs accounts.
Maintain complete ownership of the website and its content.
Mobile-responsive, fast-loading, and able to adapt properly to changing screen sizes
Maintain complete copyright protection of the website and its content
Please send me your quote to include the development, design and a reasonable monthly charge for hosting the website no later than June 1, 2018.

I can be reached at leongreg2006@hotmail.com and by phone at 786-473-4663. Thank you and look forward to hearing from you soon.

Unfortunately, we were in the middle of putting together two proposals and didn’t have the time to catfish more out of Leon. Next time…

This crap never stops. Just got the exact same scam sent it via email from james morgan <jm6994017@gmail.com>

From: james morgan <jm6994017@gmail.com>

Sound good …… I have small scale business which i want to turn into large scale business now it located in and the company is based on importing and exporting of Agriculture products such as Kola Nut, Gacillia Nut and Cocoa so i need a best of the best layout design for it. Can you handle that for me ?. so i need you to check out this site but i need something more perfect than this if its possible .http://www.agroamerica.com…. the site would only be informational, so i need you to give me an estimate based on the site i gave you to check out, the estimate should include hosting and i want the same page as the site i gave you to check out and i have a private project consultant, he has the text content and the logos for the site.

Note:
1. I want the same number of pages with the example site i gave you to check excluding videos and blogs.
2. I want only English language
3. I don’t have a domain yet but i want the domain name as yourtopproduce.co
4. you will be updating the site for me.
5. i will be proving the images, logos and content for the site.
6. My budget is $3000 to $8000

These scammers never stop. You’d think they’d start getting more creative. But everyone knows creativity is inversely related to profitability, or something like that.

Just got another of the same scammer emails from
julian johnson <julian4real147@yahoo.com>

From: julian johnson <julian4real147@yahoo.com>

Here is the job details

i have small scale business which i want to turn into large scale business now it located in USA and the company is based on importing and exporting of Agriculture products such as Kola Nut, Gacillia Nut and Cocoa so i need a best of the best layout design for it. Can you handle that for me ?. so i need you to check out this site but i need something more perfect than this if its possible .http://www.agroamerica.com…. the site would only be informational, so i need you to give me an estimate based on the site i gave you to check out, the estimate should include hosting and i want the same page as the site i gave you to check out and i have a private project consultant, he has the text content and the logos for the site.
Note:
1. I want the same number of pages with the example site i gave you to check excluding videos and blogs.
2. I want only English language
3. I don’t have a domain yet but i want the domain name as UlyateFarm.com 4. you will be updating the site for me.
5. i will be proving the images, logos and content for the site.
6. i want the site up and running before ending of next month.
7. My budget is $5,000 to $19,000

Kindly get back to me with:
(1) an estimate

Favorable Regards,
Julian Johnson.

Sent from my ipad

I asked for the name address and phone number of Julian’s business, and he said it was

JULLYFARM
USA
OFFICE 1754 Woodruff Road #153
Greenville, South Carolina
29607, USA
+1-785-428-2862

I called the number and spoke with someone I couldn’t really understand. It was a busy day in the office so I didn’t dig much deeper, but I did email Julian to get a life and stop stealing money from people.

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Written with by Alex Wright

Runs a creative digital marketing, web design and SEO agency in Austin, Texas   |   Likes good looking, fast performing and high ranking websites   |   Doesn't want to understand Snapchat   |   Wants nothing to do with bananas   |   Wishes he were a BMX superstar

371 thoughts on “Avoid Web Design Scams

  1. Thank you for posting this!!

    Billikens Marnix just emailed me and it seemed so strange.
    His new email: billkensmarnix@yahoo.com

    He said:
    Details:
    The color I have in mind Navy Blue,black, Gold and Sliver with an image of Plumber Tools
    Size for the Trifold Brochure and Flyer A4 8.5″ X 11″ full pages and i can only supply the text content and but all are with my project consultant but the logo and brochure will be designed by you also my budget is $3000 and the due date for the project is 30th September, 2020.

    Glad to know it’s a scam!!

    1. I got the exact same message on July 29, 2020 but from the email — Billkens Marnix mbillkens@gmail.com.
      Seemed odd to me so I said I would need more info so I could write up a quote and contract. Said I require half payment upfront to even start anything and I honestly didn’t expect to hear anything back.
      Got this response:
      COMPANY NAME: BILLY BEST PLUMBING SERVICE :
      These company is really based on Importing & Exporting of plumbing materials and installation:
      Pipe Gutter, Copper Tube Plumbing,White PVC Cross Pipe, Kelvin UPVC MTA, White Plasto,POLY FIT K PVC ELBOW, Rod T Connector,Brass Plumbing Fitting,CP Brass Plumbing Fittings,Drain Key Plumbing Pipe Fitting, Plugs and Bushings, for Plumbing Pipe , for Gas Pipe And More with Installation.

      HERE ARE THE DETAILS AND PROCEDURE OF THE JOB:
      1. COMPANY NAME: BILLY BEST PLUMBING SERVICE
      2. MY WEBSITE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION WHICH WOULD BE REGISTER VERY SOON
      3. I DON’T HAVE LOGO BUT NEED A CUSTOMIZED LOGO FROM YOU
      4. I COULD ONLY SUPPLY THE TEXT CONTENT AND PHOTO ALL ARE WITH MY PROJECT CONSULTANT BUT THE ARTWORK WILL BE DESIGNED BY YOU ALSO DESIGN IT BBPS.
      5. I WANT THE BROCHURE TO BE TRI-FOLD IT WILL BE FRONT & BACK THE TEXT AND THE PICTURE IS APPROVED AND CROSSCHECK AND THE FLYER
      6. THE SIZE OF BROCHURE IS 8.5 X 11 AND THE FLYER FULL PAGE 8.5 X 11

      NOTE:
      That all i can provide from my means and i hope you understand what i listed above i need a more perfect Job. If you can handle this for me you will be my permanent graphics designer and I will meet you in person after this design is done, due to my trip to get some stuff for my company. Let me know how long it will take you to finish the job.

      I knew for sure after receiving this reply it was a scam. Thank you, Alex, for writing this blog and thank you, Logan, for commenting with his name. It was the only thing I could find with that name in it with my online searching.

  2. Great article, I just received a similar scam text message, posting it here for other googlers:

    Hello,
    How are you doing? I’m making contact because i got to see your profile on Yellow Pages and i was wondering if you were still interested in handling a web design project for a small scale Agro business.

    So get back to me on your thought on this.

    Thanks.

    1. I just received this message from Yellow Pages today from ‘Jane Banks’:
      “Hello, How are you doing? Well, I contacted because I just checked up your profile. So I was wondering if you’re still interested in handling a website design for a new company. So kindly get back to me if interested.
      Thank you.”

      I followed up and I just received a reply from ‘Raymond’ who wrote:
      “Hello, How are you? Thanks for the reply to Jane on yellow pages and the interest in embarking on this project. Kindly send to us your portfolio or previous works for review. After that, you get to receive more details on the project. Expecting your reply. Thanks, Raymond.”

      Seemed weird they’re asking for my portfolio when ‘Jane’ said she saw my profile already.

      I fell for a scam in April where, like an idiot, I thought the person was real. They sent me a deposit cheque (in USD even though they were supposedly in Canada, that’s where their address and phone number were), then before I cashed it they said they accidentally sent me the payment for the printer as well. So they wanted me to deposit the cheque, then e-transfer them the difference. This sounded fishy, but I figured if I wait 4 days for the cheque to clear, it’s all legit. So I waited 4 days, e-transferred the difference, and on the 5th day, my bank took the money from my account because of a fraudulent cheque. So my bank account was then overdrawn. This seems similar, surprising it’s on Yellow Pages, though.

  3. Hi, I would like to share my case, well, this people wrote me by email about my services, basically same email structure like here, but he paid me, I request 2000 to start to build a project, he paid me, but in the payment, he paid as well extra 3000 fee, he asked me to send this money to the “content creator”, I started to work, but in the next days, he request me again “this special favor”, this time he wanted me to send over that 5K to the same person, I said “no thank you, this isn’t part of my role as developer”, he cancelled me the project, and I just find this information. So right now I have that money In my account, what should I do with this??

    1. I fell for a similar scam in April. I was just supposed to design a logo, they sent me a cheque for my fee but supposedly they made a mistake and also included the extra money for the printer. So they asked me to deposit the cheque (in USD) and e-transfer the difference to them. I waited 4 days for the cheque to clear and I sent the extra money to them in an e-transfer. On the 5th day I checked my bank account and the bank removed $3,000 from my bank account because of a ‘fraudulent cheque’. So I lost $3,000. That money will come out of your bank account because it’s fraudulent, so don’t spend it.

      1. EVERYONE READING THIS THREAD, THIS COMMENT IS IMPORTANT. Take note that even though he waited for the check to clear his bank, it was still removed from his account as fraudulent. This can happen months later. So if this scam happens to you, DON’T SPEND THE MONEY OR SEND IT TO ANYONE. It will be removed from your account.

  4. This week, I was contacted by a Paul Bell to design a logo and catalog for his company called Fabrexa . When I searched online, I saw that the company name is for sale, has a few logo options for sale, and also that the company name description is exactly how he quoted it to me. He also had mission, vision, & target audience statements (perhaps developed via another scam), and examples of other companies. I also found a logo example someone did for them on Reddit. I did not see any grammatical errors in the emails he sent, which would have been a tip off for sure. The red flag for me was that he avoided my requests for a quick phone consult to get additional details and his initial contact came out of the blue (not via any recommendation as is what usually happens in this biz). I told him it was too fishy and I was not interested. I kind of wished I had taken it a little further to see if he proposed up-front payment and how.

    1. Yes, they reached out first by text, same person or e-mail. I stopped when couldn’t reach a person by phone live. It’s sad they feel they have to do this to people.

      Paul Bell

      Wed, Jul 22 at 3:22 PM

      The company name is “FABREXA”

      We should be launching as soon as branding and other materials is completed so I’ ll be needing brand Visuals (i.e. Logo & brand identity)

      We are focused on indoor furniture and Decor.

      My website is under fabrication which would be registered soon.

      The full-text content and all images for the catalog will be submitted to you by the Project Consultant. Layout and design would be done by you.
      The catalog should be 44 pages including front and back cover. Texts are approved and crosschecked

      The size of the catalog should Be 8.5 x 11.

      I would be needing just the digital version.

      You will oversee the catalog update.
      Final files should be submitted in pdf.

      See below are few samples

      WEST ELM CATALOG LINK https://www.westelm.com/pages/we-catalog/2020-03.html

      IKEA CATALOG LINKhttps://www.ikea.com/ext/us/ikeacatalog/

      This brand name is clearly derived from the words ‘fabric’ or ‘fabricate’. It looks and sounds superb, and is short and easy to say and spell: all great qualities in a business brand name. The suggestion of fabric and fabrication would make this an excellent choice for a business that’s all about fabrics, or one that is focused on making things – from structures and buildings to furniture and other objects. This is a really well-made contemporary business name.
      All our products are shipped from Germany unlike IKEA, West Elm. Their products comes from China.

      MISSION: Promoting German culture and building a national brand, Undoubtedly, Germany continues to be counted among the world’s biggest furniture nations. The main reasons for its good reputation are the high standard of quality, the use of selected materials
      and the attractive modern design, but also the reliability and the competence of German furniture manufacturers.

      VISION: To become a world-class multinational company that provide our customers with
      high-quality home life by establishing a long-term foundation.
      The needs of customers are the foundation of our survival and development,
      our pursuit is to always meet up with our customers’ needs and expectations.

      PURPOSE OF BUSINESS: The purpose of my business is to bring modern furniture that will provide beauty and comfort for everyone.

      COMPETITORS: Alexandro Furniture & Mattress https://www.alexandrofurniture.com/
      Direct Home Furniture https://www.directhomefurnitureni.com/

      COLORS: My competitors love red. Teal and Brown should be fine.

      TARGETS: I have a wide target Age range 25-56, I would like to target their income demographics.

      For logo inspirations, you can look at brands like
      America Signature Furniture https://www.americansignaturefurniture.com/
      Crate&Barrel https://www.crateandbarrel.com/
      West Elm https://www.westelm.com/
      Williams Sonoma https://www.williams-sonoma.com/
      I look forward to working with you!

  5. I got a text saying “Hello,Am Ruzzi Mark,i wanna know if you can handle website design?” — written just like that. Seems a little fishy, because no-one has ever contacted me via text for a job. Plus, a poorly written text. I sent him my email and he emailed a simple scope for a custom auto paint informational website. In the email, he stated similar comments mentioned above in that he wanted it “more perfect”. I sent him an estimate and he quickly responded that it seemed reasonable. Now it seems even more fishy. He immediately texted about payment and paying by CC. I told him I could do Venmo. He said he couldn’t do Venmo, PayPal, or Square because his bank debits him twice and its more complicated to work out with them. Seems more fishy. I asked him where he is located and he said, “here in Indianapolis, IN”. I’m in Austin and rarely do people in other states just find me on the internet. I asked him how he heard of me and he gave a generic answer about finding me through a business advisory on Google. It’s really fishy now y’all. He then instructed me to set up a Helcim account to take credit cards. I hadn’t heard of Helcim, but it seems like a legit service.

    We left it there and started doing research on these scams and found this post. I will most likely tell him to F-off tomorrow.

    His email is ruzzimark@gmail.com and phone number is (208) 203-0413. It’s an Idaho phone number.

    Does this sound familiar?

  6. I’m looking at texts from Mr. Joe Moore who wants an ‘informational’ website for a small clothing business called White Gold Clothings. Pretty much the same language from your examples above except his budget is $2000 to $4000. So I’m getting the budget-minded scammers. 🙂

    Thanks for writing this, Alex!

  7. I’ve received 3 of these requests recently, all very similar. One looks like it was pretty much copy/pasted from this website!

    I usually go as far as giving them my email (a junk one) to make sure it’s a spam request. When they text me again to “make sure I received it,” I reply with yes, and then ask if their “graphic designer” or “consultant” (or whatever name they use) requests credit cards — which shuts them up immediately lol. The most recent guy kept pushing, so I ended up just sending him screen shots of the last requests I received and was like, “GEEZ do you guys use some sort of template or something?!” thinking that maybe they will start to realize they are wasting our time…

    If this helps anyone else, here the names/numbers/emails from recent requests I’ve received:

    James Hanson 219-237-4630 jameshanson106@gmail.com
    Randy Marsengill 323-374-3891 marsengillrandysamual@gmail.com
    Marnix Billikens 909-321-2647 marnixbill@gmail.com
    417-986-5385

  8. I was contacted by Dorothy J who supposedly owns a salon and spa to design a website. I was suspicious from the very first email, but after I sent her my usual new client questionnaire, her third email to me was extremely similar to what you shared with run-on sentences, lower case “I”s and the ending, “Kindly get back to me with: 1) estimate, 2) cell phone number, 3) Are you the owner?” Since he/she mentioned she wanted a WordPress site, I wrote back and told her I don’t build sites in WordPress, wished her luck and promptly deleted everything.

  9. We just got hit up last week with a request from our good ole friend Richard Dojcak to build his clothing store website. Very hurt to see that he has been hiring other agencies for his King Trendies store. 🙂

    Just sent him a nice little email before we got too far into our business dealings. Thanks, Alex for hosting this chain. Came in handy as I did my research.

    1. I just heard from “Richard” myself. I tossed the email and then searched his name. I found this article, but, get this: an 86 year old man named Richard Dojcak just passed away in April. Coincidence? I think not!

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